14 thoughts on “SkeptiCamp Winnipeg 2011: Polyamory and Mononormative Assumptions

  1. dookiecheez

    Any relevant peer reviewed material? It’s one thing to dismiss assumptions,
    but it’s another to demonstrate that this model (of relationships) is at
    the very least as sound. I can imagine a number of unique problems. Though
    it may not be relevant I keep thinking of the society that decentralized
    parenting with disastrous results. There’s something to be said about
    stability, non?

  2. Katrina Elisse Caudle

    Having a polyamorous relationship doesn’t immediately negate stability nor
    disrupt parenting. Having had parents who divorced and accepting other
    figures into my life in that role, I can say that it’s the individuals not
    the family structure that most influenced my sense of love and stability

  3. TheBassLizard

    @dookiecheez With divorce rates in areas of Canada approaching 50%, and
    non-married monogamous parent-couples staying together (let’s assume)
    roughly the same amount, I’d say that there may be something to be said for
    stability, but our society isn’t experiencing it, no matter what the
    relationship model of the parents is. The communication level and honesty
    level of great Poly relationships may actually lead to them being more
    stable than Mono relationships!

  4. dookiecheez

    @TheBassLizard So you bring up a single statistic, make an assumption about
    non-married couples, and then state that poly relationships are more honest
    and have better communication. Riiiight…that’s a sound argument.

  5. TheBassLizard

    @dookiecheez I didn’t actually “state” anything as fact.. I merely said
    that the level of honesty in GREAT Poly relationships MAY lead to them
    being more stable than the average mono relationship.Current marriage
    paradigms aren’t exactly doing that great in the stability department, and
    a lack of honesty or communication is very often blamed for that… so I
    would think that saying the current marriage model is stable, honest, and
    communicative would be inaccurate.

  6. dookiecheez

    @TheBassLizard “I merely said that the level of honesty in GREAT Poly
    relationships MAY lead” Oooh. So then your argument rests on greatness, not
    anything intrinsically or demonstrably true about poly relationships. “I
    would think that saying the current marriage model is stable, honest, and
    communicative would be inaccurate.” Who’s saying it is? I was talking about
    ‘demonstrating that this model (poly) is at the very least as sound as
    mono’.

  7. TheBassLizard

    @dookiecheez Not what I was saying at all.. and it was you who said that
    “there is something to be said for stability” in reference to mono
    relationships. I don’t agree that they’re inherently stable, and there’s
    plenty of empirical evidence to prove that. I prefer to think that there
    might be a better way, and I’m pretty sure truth and honesty are key to
    that better way working. Maybe it’s Poly.. maybe not. I personally believe
    that Polyamory represents something that MIGHT work. My opinion.

  8. dookiecheez

    @TheBassLizard “it was you who said that “there is something to be said for
    stability” in reference to mono relationships” That was a general statement
    about parenting actually. “I don’t agree that they’re inherently stable,
    and there’s plenty of empirical evidence to prove that.” Inherently
    stable…I don’t know how any relationship could be inherently stable, and
    in this case the important point is how it stacks up against poly
    relationships. I think they necessarily have more variables–

  9. dookiecheez

    @dookiecheez –therefore they would necessarily tend more towards
    instability. That would be simple math, and even still I am interested in
    any peer reviewed material for a definitive answer.

  10. TheBassLizard

    Dookie, might I suggest, then, a google search for “comparative stability
    of polyamorous relationships vs monogamous relationships” ? I’d post the
    link here for you, but YT refuses to allow it. The materials I found were
    very interesting, although proving neither side of this argument to be more
    accurate, but being informative, well researched, verified, and scientific,
    I felt that they’d be more interesting to you than my more emotional
    arguments. I hope you find material of interest.

  11. Keovar

    As for non-monodamy portrayed (relatively) positively in mainstream media,
    there was actually a western (starring Clint Eastwood) called “Paint Your
    Wagon’ in which a woman had two husbands who were friends and business
    partners. I guess it would be closest to a ‘V’ relationship as the speaker
    here describes it.

  12. yanikv

    Would it be too forward to ask whether or not Anlina happens to be a fan of
    a variety of penises? Is that what this is about? Short, long, skinny
    and/or girthy.

  13. SexualKamikaze

    I love how confusing people have made love… I like that people leave hate
    alone. I choose hate… and polyamoury is not a new concept the name is
    new. Sieg Heil!!

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